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Showing posts with label Sergiu Ciobanu. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Sergiu Ciobanu. Show all posts
Monday, May 01, 2017
Athletics Ireland claims Ciobanu's Olympic appeal cost it 'over €75,000'
There was an article in the Irish Independent today titled "Ciobanu's Rio case costs association €75k".
Back in 2016, Sergiu Ciobanu was skipped over for selection for the three man Irish marathon team for the Rio Olympics despite having the third fastest time. The Athletics Ireland selection committee decided to pick Paul Pollock instead based on his half-marathon performances.
Sergiu Ciobanu appealed the decision to Athletics Ireland and was refused. He then took the case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in Lausanne, saying that Athletics Ireland were unclear in their selection policy. The CAS appeal was unsuccessful.
According to the Irish Independent article, the CAS appeal process cost Athletics Ireland 'over €75,000'. Considering that the association made a profit of just €2,763 for 2016, €75k is a huge amount.
The article however failed to get the viewpoint of the athlete in question so it wasn't balanced in that respect. In response to the newspaper article, Sergiu Ciobanu posted this on social media....
"I believe this article might be somewhat misleading. It vilifies me as the guy who cost the sport so much. I will be straight the total cost of me appealing the case with CAS including solicitor, barrister and travel to Lausanne fees cost approx 9k. How it would cost AI 75k is beyond me??
Also to clarify the end results was that CAS ruled they didn't have the jurisdiction to intervene in the decision. "
What the article also doesn't touch on is the fact that this was the second time there was a legal case based on the selection process. In 2012, there was a similar case with the 4 x 400m women's relay team for the London Olympics which also cost Athletics Ireland a substantial amount of money.
Considering that the women's 4x400 team of 2012 and the men's marathon team of 2016 never had any realistic chance of getting anywhere near the medals, surely Athletics Ireland would have saved themselves a huge amount of money by just having a simple selection process. Instead of having a selection policy that is open to interpretation, surely just sending the fastest athletes in the qualifying period would be beyond any legal challenge?
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Friday, July 22, 2016
Sergiu Ciobanu loses Olympic Marathon appeal
There has been some controversy over the last month or so about the Irish mens marathon team that was selected for the Olympics in Rio. The third member of the team Paul Pollock was selected by Athletics Ireland based on his half-marathon times rather than Sergiu Ciobanu who had a slightly faster marathon time.
Sergiu took the case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Switzerland. In a finding today, they dismissed the appeal.
Although disappointed with the result, Sergiu said that he wished the Irish team all the best in Rio.
Sergiu took the case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Switzerland. In a finding today, they dismissed the appeal.
Although disappointed with the result, Sergiu said that he wished the Irish team all the best in Rio.
Ciobanu statement: "I fully respect the decision of CAS and wish each and every member of the Irish marathon team every success at Rio."— Cathal Dennehy (@Cathal_Dennehy) July 22, 2016
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Sunday, March 27, 2016
Irish & Cork runners at the IAAF World Half-Marathon Championships in Cardiff...Sat 26th Mar 2016
The IAAF World Half-Marathon Championships were held this year in Cardiff, Wales on Saturday the 26th of March 2016. While the elites were at the front end of the field, it was also a mass participation event with just over 12,000 taking part.
In the elite women's section, the only Irish woman taking part was Lizzie Lee from Cork. In wet and windy conditions, Lizzie posted a time of 75:36.
Women...
52nd Lizzie Lee (Leevale) 75:36
In the elite men's section, there was a full Irish team which finished 8th out of 14 teams.
Men
14th Paul Pollock (Annadale Striders) 62:46
41st Thomas Frazer (Crusaders) 65:20
42nd Kevin Seaward (St Malachy's) 65:23
50th Sergiu Ciobanu (Clonliffe Harriers) 66:30
Many of those taking part will also have their eyes firmly set on qualifying for the Olympics in Rio. Ireland can only send a team of 3 but more than that have already gone inside the qualifying time of 2h 19m.
Kevin Seaward IRL2:14:52 Berlin (GER) 27.09.2015
Mick Clohisey IRL2:15:11 Sevilla (ESP) 21.02.2016
Sergiu Ciobanu IRL2:15:14 Berlin (GER) 27.09.2015
Paul Pollock IRL2:15:38 Berlin (GER) 27.09.2015
Gary Thornton IRL2:17:19 Berlin (GER) 27.09.2015
Thomas Frazer IRL2:17:45 Rotterdam (NED) 12.04.2015
Sean Hehir IRL2:17:48 Berlin (GER) 27.09.2015
Looking at the times above, do the selectors send the three with the fastest marathon times? In that case, Paul Pollock would miss out but based on his performance in Cardiff, he is in great shape and faster than the other Irish runners by some margin. Whatever they decide, someone is going to be disappointed.
A number of runners from clubs in Cork also ran. The fastest of these was Tim O'Donoghue of East Cork AC who was just a bit slower than some of the elite Irish runners. Tim is in flying form at the moment having finished 2nd in the Dungarvan 10 mile in January and 4th in the Ballycotton 10 mile at the start of March.
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| Tim O'Donoghue |
These are some Cork club runners that broke 90 minutes in Cardiff....
Pos Name Cat Cat Pos Club GunTime Chip ChipTime
7 Tim O' Donoghue MS 7 East Cork AC 01:06:58 01:06:56
90 Conor McCauley MS 83 Leevale AC 01:14:54 01:14:47
140 Alan O'Brien MS 81 Eagle AC 01:14:44 01:14:42
144 Tony Kelleher M45 5 Togher AC 01:17:07 01:17:00
207 Eric Browne MS 176 Togher AC 01:19:10 01:19:02
246 John O'Callaghan M45 6 Eagle AC 01:20:14 01:20:05
301 Ronan Boland M50 5 Eagle AC 01:21:34 01:21:25
302 David Butler MS 238 St Finbarr's AC 01:21:35 01:21:28
364 David O'Keeffe MS 279 Togher AC 01:22:51 01:22:39
702 Killian O'Connor MS 412 Eagle AC 01:26:48 01:26:38
The results for the elite runners can be found HERE
The results for the non-elite runners can be seen HERE
Photos...(Updated Sun 27th @21:38)
1) Gearóid Ó Laoi has some nice photos HERE
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| Fall at the start of the elite men's race |
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| Some of the non-elites |
Wednesday, September 03, 2014
Guest article - Road running still in the doldrums / Ballycotton in decline...by David O’Dwyer
The following article appeared in a recent issue of the Irish Runner magazine and is published here with their kind permission. It was written by David O'Dwyer of East Cork AC and it touches on the the decline in times in the Ballycotton '10' and outlines some possible reasons for this...
This year’s Ballycotton ‘10’ was won by Sergiu Ciobanu who completed a 4 in a row with a PB of 48.58mins. Going sub 49mins is no mean feat but it doesn’t even put Sergiu into the all-time top 40 performances in Ballycotton. The womens race was won by Siobhan O’Doherty in a time of 57.32mins. This time is outside of the top 20 performances in Ballycotton for women. Is this a snapshot of where Irish distance running is at the moment?
It is easy to get wrapped up in the nostalgia of how times of 20 and 30 years ago were faster than today. Albeit taken in isolation, the Ballycotton ‘10’ is a window on the standard of Irish distance running, not just for the present but also for the past. As the course has not changed in 37 years it is an accurate barometer when the times of this year are compared with previous times and the stats make for interesting reading.
The popularity of the race is bigger than ever but the elite performances are still some way off the times of yesteryear.
This year was the first time that 49mins was broken since 2005 when Dave Mitchinson (N. & Essex Beagles) won in 48.26mins. Another notable factor of the 2005 race was that the next two finishers were within 10secs of the winner, with Seamus Power in 3rd position. All 3 make the all-time top 40 which has not been updated since the 2005 race.
The glaring question is; Why are the winning times of recent years not challenging those top 40 performances? Is it simply a case of not enough of the elites turning up to mount a challenge? It would have been a fair assumption that Sergiu Ciobanu was going to attempt to retain his title this year. Did this scare away any would be challengers knowing that they would have a proper race on their hands if they turned up? His winning time of 48.58mins was more than 2mins ahead of runner-up and former winner of the race, Alan O’Shea, 51.06mins.
Is the fact that there are so many other races on the calendar now also a factor? Perhaps the standard of athlete is as good as those of the heady days of the 1980’s and 1990’s but there are more races to choose from today and the Ballycotton ’10’ is just another race. It could be argued that the abundance of road races has diluted the competition at the business end.
The winners’ prize of €500 is not insignificant but is it enough to attract the current top Irish distance runners? A 10k in Dublin on the same day had €800 on offer for the winner. John Walshe, the Ballycotton ‘10’ race director doesn’t believe that money is necessarily a factor. Or at least it has never been a factor in Ballycotton. There have never been incentives to attract the big names and even when nike were on board as a main sponsor the prize money was not excessive. John Walshe believes that a more pertinent point is the lack of track races that the top guys are running. This is borne out by taking a closer look at those who are already in the top 40.
Closer examination of those top 40 performances shows that 19 have been set by 5 Irish athletes. 4 each for Liam O’Brien, Robert Costelloe, John Griffin, Noel Berkley and 3 for Jerry Kiernan. All home grown athletes who kept coming back for more. The last of these times was set in 2000 and since then Seamus Power is the only Irish addition to the top 40 from his 2005 performance.
A common denominator of those athletes mentioned above was the fact that they were all competitive on the track. Liam O’Brien was a multiple national champion in the 3,000m steeplechase and former national record holder for the distance with 8.27mins. Noel Berkley has 6 national 10,000m titles with a PB of 27.55mins and a PB of 13.32mins for 5,000m. Jerry Kiernan may be best remembered for his 9th place finish in the marathon in the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics but he has also notched up a 4min mile plus a national 10,000m title and is a former national record holder for 3,000m. Robert Costelloe also has a national 10,000m title to his name. Seamus Power, also a national 10,000m champion and the most recent addition to the top 40 has PB’s of 28.18mins and 13.31mins for 10,000m & 5,000m respectively, the former set when picking up a AAA title.
Even if the current cream of Irish distance runners were to toe the line would they push one another to break into that top 40? A few of today’s top distance runners are 28.30men for 10,000m but they are not racing each other on the roads. There are too many races and too few athletes at this elite level.
Noel Berkley believes that the decline in times being set is not just an Irish phenomenon. He believes that it is the same in the UK and the US with the odd exception. Noel believes that there are a number of contributing factors from lifestyle changes to the dearth of good coaches, in this country at least. Also over training is as much a problem as under training. “Anyone can put in 100miles a week but it is quality as much as quantity”. Liam O’Brien is of a similar opinion, “How many fellas are training twice a day? How many reps are they doing in sessions? It is probably 12-15 as opposed to 25-30”.
Both men also believe that societal changes are also a factor. Noel Berkley says that “In general terms we are a bit softer. How many guys are cycling to college or work in the morning, training afterwards and then cycling home again?”
Marathon Mission has as one of its entry requirements sub 50mins for 10 miles. Should this be now revised down?
The demise of the National Inter Club Cross Country Championships is also a factor according to John Walshe. In the past the Inter clubs would have been used in the selection criteria for the World Cross Country Championships and competition would have been keen to say the least. The sad demise of this race is a topic for another day but it is fair to say that it has had a knock on effect on the quality of performances in Ballycotton. The Inter Clubs would traditionally have been held towards the end of February with the Ballycotton ‘10’ on the first Sunday in March. If you made the Irish team you might fancy your chances in Ballycotton or if you just missed out then you might still fancy your chances as you would be in the shape to mount a challenge. This year only 3 of the top 10 finishers in the Inter Clubs ran in Ballycotton and two of those were from East Cork AC, the local club. Perhaps Ballycotton is in the same downward spiral as the Inter Clubs?
Sergiu Ciobanu in some respects is battling against the tide and is at least attempting to emulate the previous generation in that he had a real go in the Inter Clubs where he finished 3rd and followed this up with a new PB for 10 miles in Ballycotton. Who wouldn’t bet against 5 in a row next year? It would be interesting to see if anyone will mount a challenge…
Do you agree with David's points? Any thoughts or suggestions as to how standards could be improved at the sharp end of the field?
The next Ballycotton '10' race will be in March 2014. Entry details should be announced sometime in October.
This year’s Ballycotton ‘10’ was won by Sergiu Ciobanu who completed a 4 in a row with a PB of 48.58mins. Going sub 49mins is no mean feat but it doesn’t even put Sergiu into the all-time top 40 performances in Ballycotton. The womens race was won by Siobhan O’Doherty in a time of 57.32mins. This time is outside of the top 20 performances in Ballycotton for women. Is this a snapshot of where Irish distance running is at the moment?It is easy to get wrapped up in the nostalgia of how times of 20 and 30 years ago were faster than today. Albeit taken in isolation, the Ballycotton ‘10’ is a window on the standard of Irish distance running, not just for the present but also for the past. As the course has not changed in 37 years it is an accurate barometer when the times of this year are compared with previous times and the stats make for interesting reading.
The popularity of the race is bigger than ever but the elite performances are still some way off the times of yesteryear.
This year was the first time that 49mins was broken since 2005 when Dave Mitchinson (N. & Essex Beagles) won in 48.26mins. Another notable factor of the 2005 race was that the next two finishers were within 10secs of the winner, with Seamus Power in 3rd position. All 3 make the all-time top 40 which has not been updated since the 2005 race.
The glaring question is; Why are the winning times of recent years not challenging those top 40 performances? Is it simply a case of not enough of the elites turning up to mount a challenge? It would have been a fair assumption that Sergiu Ciobanu was going to attempt to retain his title this year. Did this scare away any would be challengers knowing that they would have a proper race on their hands if they turned up? His winning time of 48.58mins was more than 2mins ahead of runner-up and former winner of the race, Alan O’Shea, 51.06mins.
Is the fact that there are so many other races on the calendar now also a factor? Perhaps the standard of athlete is as good as those of the heady days of the 1980’s and 1990’s but there are more races to choose from today and the Ballycotton ’10’ is just another race. It could be argued that the abundance of road races has diluted the competition at the business end.
The winners’ prize of €500 is not insignificant but is it enough to attract the current top Irish distance runners? A 10k in Dublin on the same day had €800 on offer for the winner. John Walshe, the Ballycotton ‘10’ race director doesn’t believe that money is necessarily a factor. Or at least it has never been a factor in Ballycotton. There have never been incentives to attract the big names and even when nike were on board as a main sponsor the prize money was not excessive. John Walshe believes that a more pertinent point is the lack of track races that the top guys are running. This is borne out by taking a closer look at those who are already in the top 40.
Closer examination of those top 40 performances shows that 19 have been set by 5 Irish athletes. 4 each for Liam O’Brien, Robert Costelloe, John Griffin, Noel Berkley and 3 for Jerry Kiernan. All home grown athletes who kept coming back for more. The last of these times was set in 2000 and since then Seamus Power is the only Irish addition to the top 40 from his 2005 performance.
A common denominator of those athletes mentioned above was the fact that they were all competitive on the track. Liam O’Brien was a multiple national champion in the 3,000m steeplechase and former national record holder for the distance with 8.27mins. Noel Berkley has 6 national 10,000m titles with a PB of 27.55mins and a PB of 13.32mins for 5,000m. Jerry Kiernan may be best remembered for his 9th place finish in the marathon in the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics but he has also notched up a 4min mile plus a national 10,000m title and is a former national record holder for 3,000m. Robert Costelloe also has a national 10,000m title to his name. Seamus Power, also a national 10,000m champion and the most recent addition to the top 40 has PB’s of 28.18mins and 13.31mins for 10,000m & 5,000m respectively, the former set when picking up a AAA title.
Even if the current cream of Irish distance runners were to toe the line would they push one another to break into that top 40? A few of today’s top distance runners are 28.30men for 10,000m but they are not racing each other on the roads. There are too many races and too few athletes at this elite level.
Noel Berkley believes that the decline in times being set is not just an Irish phenomenon. He believes that it is the same in the UK and the US with the odd exception. Noel believes that there are a number of contributing factors from lifestyle changes to the dearth of good coaches, in this country at least. Also over training is as much a problem as under training. “Anyone can put in 100miles a week but it is quality as much as quantity”. Liam O’Brien is of a similar opinion, “How many fellas are training twice a day? How many reps are they doing in sessions? It is probably 12-15 as opposed to 25-30”.
Both men also believe that societal changes are also a factor. Noel Berkley says that “In general terms we are a bit softer. How many guys are cycling to college or work in the morning, training afterwards and then cycling home again?”
Marathon Mission has as one of its entry requirements sub 50mins for 10 miles. Should this be now revised down?
The demise of the National Inter Club Cross Country Championships is also a factor according to John Walshe. In the past the Inter clubs would have been used in the selection criteria for the World Cross Country Championships and competition would have been keen to say the least. The sad demise of this race is a topic for another day but it is fair to say that it has had a knock on effect on the quality of performances in Ballycotton. The Inter Clubs would traditionally have been held towards the end of February with the Ballycotton ‘10’ on the first Sunday in March. If you made the Irish team you might fancy your chances in Ballycotton or if you just missed out then you might still fancy your chances as you would be in the shape to mount a challenge. This year only 3 of the top 10 finishers in the Inter Clubs ran in Ballycotton and two of those were from East Cork AC, the local club. Perhaps Ballycotton is in the same downward spiral as the Inter Clubs?
Sergiu Ciobanu in some respects is battling against the tide and is at least attempting to emulate the previous generation in that he had a real go in the Inter Clubs where he finished 3rd and followed this up with a new PB for 10 miles in Ballycotton. Who wouldn’t bet against 5 in a row next year? It would be interesting to see if anyone will mount a challenge…
Do you agree with David's points? Any thoughts or suggestions as to how standards could be improved at the sharp end of the field?
The next Ballycotton '10' race will be in March 2014. Entry details should be announced sometime in October.
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