A total of 433 runners turned out for this years Togher 5k road raceon Tues 27th of Dec 2016, a massive 50% up on last year.
1 James McCarthy East Cork AC 15:26 SM 357
2 Ruairi Casey Togher AC 15:53 SM 258
3 David Fox Leevale AC 16:03 SM 202
6 Shona Heaslip An Riocht 16:27 SW 190
14 Emma Murphy St Finbarrs AC 17:08 SW 260
33 Teresa Murphy Kent AC 18:16 SW 399
Photos... (Updated Wed 28th @1pm)
1) Michael Herlihy has a gallery HERE
2) Ger Broderick has a gallery HERE
3) Joe Murphy of Eagle AC has 500+ photos HERE
The full results can be seen below...
Togher AC 5K Race Results
Position Name Club / Town Time Division Bib #
1 James McCarthy East Cork AC 15:26 SM 357
2 Ruairi Casey Togher AC 15:53 SM 258
3 David Fox Leevale AC 16:03 SM 202
4 Tim Twomey Leevale AC 16:14 SM 213
5 Mark Cronin St Finbarrs AC 16:24 SM 212
6 Shona Heaslip An Riocht 16:27 SW 190
7 Alfie Davis Leevale AC 16:27 M40 410
8 Damien Madigan North Cork AC 16:34 SM 299
9 Matt Murnane 16:42 SM 103
10 Ken Devine St Finbarrs AC 17:00 M50 230
11 Dennis Lyons St Finbarrs AC 17:01 M40 274
12 Bryan Crowley Watergrasshill AC 17:01 M40 193
13 John Hennessy East Cork AC 17:07 M45 408
14 Emma Murphy St Finbarrs AC 17:08 SW 260
15 Ruairi O Callaghan 17:10 SM 126
16 Conor O Driscoll 17:10 SM 115
17 Shane Cooney Brothers Pearse AC 17:11 SM 368
18 Martin Curtin St Finbarrs AC 17:12 SM 339
19 Andrew Hobbs 17:13 SM 75
20 Liam Hennessy Togher 17:16 SM 197
21 Craig Harrington 17:18 SM 70
22 Joe Kelleher St Finbarrs AC 17:22 M40 257
23 Jonathan Murphy 17:23 SM 111
24 Gary O Sullivan 17:31 SM 288
25 Damien Kenneally Eagle AC 17:38 SM 220
26 Paul Cotter Eagle AC 17:46 M40 360
27 Davie Murphy 17:49 SM 265
28 John O Callaghan 17:50 M45 125
29 Pat O Connor Eagle AC 17:57 M45 308
30 Mohamed Wahbi St Finbarrs AC 18:03 SM 219
31 Carl Williams Suzhou Webus 18:07 M40 187
32 Kevin Geary Eagle AC 18:11 SM 286
33 Teresa Murphy Kent AC 18:16 SW 399
34 Ronan Hoare 18:20 SM 395
35 Noreen Brouder Sportsworld 18:25 SW 388
36 Johnny Collins Kilkenny City Harriers 18:32 SM 209
37 Ben McGuire St Finbarrs AC 18:34 SM 300
38 Cillian Buckley 18:35 SM 10
39 Kieran Murphy 18:36 SM 372
40 Tom Fox 18:38 M50 61
41 Henry Browne 18:46 SM 417
42 Michael Cronin 18:48 M40 228
43 Helen Brouder Sportsworld 18:51 SW 387
44 Aaron Hurley Parnells GAA 18:56 SM 346
45 Eamonn McEvoy St Finbarrs AC 18:59 M60 181
46 Andrew O Callaghan 19:00 M50 354
47 Jason Crosbie 19:01 SM 30
48 Jack O Connor 19:02 SM 131
49 Niamh O Sullivan An Riocht 19:04 W50 192
50 Nick Parkinson Midleton 19:04 M40 194
51 Gary Neff 19:07 M40 458
52 Matthew McCarthy 19:12 SM 100
53 John Kissane 19:13 M45 90
54 Tim Cronin 19:16 M40 403
55 Anna O Neill Doheny AC 19:20 W45 392
56 John Dunphy 19:24 M45 54
57 Colman McCarthy Togher AC 19:29 M40 175
58 Fergal Quinlan Ballymore Cobh AC 19:32 M45 351
59 Graham Crowley 19:34 SM 240
60 Tom McCarthy 19:36 SM 464
61 Carmel Parnell Leevale AC 19:41 W60 313
62 Diarmuid Hayes Run2Gether Austria 19:49 SM 343
63 Ian O Sullivan Leevale AC 19:51 M40 196
64 David O Keeffe 19:55 SM 256
65 Tony Kelleher 19:58 M45 84
66 Tim Blanchard Someriew Road Runners 20:04 M40 361
67 Brian Fahy 20:04 M40 364
68 Ronan Walsh RTE Athletics Club 20:06 SM 439
69 Cliff Browne 20:07 M40 272
70 Paul Surlis 20:07 M40 279
71 Shane Meyler Ballymore Cobh AC 20:09 M40 263
72 Niall McSweeney 20:11 SM 322
73 Denis Sheehan 20:19 M40 159
74 Peter Collins 20:20 SM 210
75 Sean O Riordan 20:22 M45 377
76 Tony O Sullivan 20:23 M45 120
77 Stephen O Connor 20:23 SM 130
78 Thomas Murphy 20:26 SM 398
79 Terry Ryan Leevale AC 20:26 M40 206
80 Phil McGrath East Cork AC 20:28 M65 304
81 Mary O Connor An Riocht 20:36 W45 191
82 David Coleman 20:39 SM 21
83 John Collins 20:44 M45 211
84 Stuart Mosby Suzhou Webus 20:45 M40 188
85 Luke Hever North Cork AC 20:47 SM 242
86 Eoghan Hallahan 20:50 SM 66
87 Orla Crosbie St Finbarrs AC 20:51 M45 319
88 Gerard Skally 20:58 M45 438
89 Neal Horgan 20:59 SM 234
90 Enda Kernan St Finbarrs AC 21:00 M45 201
91 David O Donovan Eagle AC 21:01 SM 241
92 Liam Walsh 21:01 M40 325
93 Bernie Condron 21:05 W45 405
94 Charlotte Goodall Headington Road Runners 21:07 SW 302
95 Donal Murray 21:09 M40 112
96 Martin Bohane Cork Tri Club 21:10 M45 189
97 Benvon Lyons 21:11 SW 296
98 Conor O Sullivan St Finbarrs AC 21:13 SM 393
99 Colm O Shea Pat Walsh Running 21:14 M45 276
100 Neil O Donovan 21:20 SM 305
101 Michael Pratt Grange Fermoy AC 21:23 M55 250
102 John Delaney 21:23 M50 42
103 Joseph Power 21:26 M60 383
104 Stephanie Johnson 21:28 W45 385
105 David Hurley 21:33 M40 425
106 David O Sullivan Midleton 21:33 SM 195
107 Pauline Grainger Leevale AC 21:34 SW 440
108 Aidan Leahy 21:34 SM 373
109 Ronan McManus Midleton AC 21:36 M45 406
110 Linda Murphy Grange Fermoy AC 21:36 W40 249
111 P J Owens 21:37 M45 146
112 James Bredin 21:43 SM 204
113 Noel O Connor Eagle AC 21:44 M55 370
114 Ciaran O Conghaile 21:44 SM 445
115 Michael Cullinane Togher 21:45 SM 446
116 Kevin Prendergast 21:47 SM 468
117 Mark Barrett 21:47 M40 1
118 Brian Leahy 21:47 SM 374
119 Brian O Keeffe 21:49 M45 289
120 Kieran Mulcahy Eagle AC 21:53 M45 295
121 Caroline Kilty Eagle AC 21:54 SW 233
122 Donal O Leary 21:56 SM 455
123 John Delaney Grange Fermoy AC 21:57 M40 252
124 Trevor Moore 22:01 SM 310
125 Jack Moore 22:01 SM 311
126 Gwen Conroy Watergrasshill AC 22:02 W40 397
127 Joan Hough 22:03 W55 76
128 David Lynch 22:05 M50 179
129 Keith Buckley Grange Fermoy AC 22:07 M40 248
130 Margaret Jones 22:09 W45 239
131 Mossy Shanahan 22:10 M60 278
132 Kate Martin Raheny Shamrocks AC 22:12 SW 255
133 Fiona Davis 22:15 SW 411
134 Conor Casey Santiago Harriers 22:16 SM 432
135 Dan Daly 22:17 M45 36
136 Eoin O Brien 22:17 SM 451
137 Adil Adil Togher AC 22:21 SM 336
138 Dan Twohig Midleton AC 22:23 M40 333
139 Maurice Tobin Grange Fermoy AC 22:24 M65 262
140 Declan Maunsell 22:24 SM 416
141 Fiona O Sullivan Cobh 22:24 W45 223
142 Denis Cogan 22:25 M40 172
143 Elaine Guinane Eagle AC 22:26 SW 198
144 Michael Dooley Eagle AC 22:27 M50 371
145 Martin Herlihy 22:27 M40 235
146 Helen Cronin Eagle AC 22:29 SW 229
147 Dennis Dillon 22:31 M50 453
148 Garrett Buttimer 22:32 M40 335
149 Pauline Callan Bandon AC 22:34 W40 435
150 Alan Foley Watergrasshill AC 22:37 M45 356
151 Lisa Crowley Watergrasshill AC 22:38 W40 396
152 David Leahy 22:38 SM 390
153 Niklas Leahy 22:39 SM 227
154 Pat Walsh Pat Walsh Running 22:42 M50 326
155 Paul Dowling Buttevant AC 22:43 SM 433
156 David Noonan 22:44 M55 232
157 Andrew O Farrell Eagle AC 22:51 M60 454
158 Trevor O Neill St Finbarrs AC 22:52 SM 218
159 Lynne Doherty 22:53 W45 45
160 Andrew Geaney Apple 22:53 M60 409
161 Reynolds O Donovan 22:55 M50 334
162 Jamie O Sullivan 22:56 SM 121
163 Sheila Ambrose Tracton AC 22:58 SW 423
164 Victor Kiely 22:59 M45 422
165 Ryan O Donnell 23:04 SM 205
166 Colin Murphy 23:06 M40 414
167 Gillian Bransfield Midleton AC 23:09 SW 238
168 Stephen Murphy Rising Sun 23:09 M55 434
169 Colm Herlihy 23:10 SM 236
170 Darren Kearney 23:12 M40 81
171 John Finn 23:13 M50 316
172 Fanahan Moriarty 23:14 SM 102
173 Daniel McNally 23:16 SM 101
174 Des White Grange Fermoy AC 23:18 M50 221
175 Steve O Donovan 23:23 M55 176
176 John Hayes Rising Sun 23:24 M55 170
177 Mark O Neill Ballincollig AC 23:26 M40 247
178 Pat Murphy 23:26 M55 203
179 James McCarthy 23:27 M40 99
180 Frances O Connor Eagle AC 23:29 W55 369
181 Richard Gibbs Headington Road Runners 23:33 M40 303
182 John Howard 23:34 M45 301
183 Jackie Cavanagh 23:36 W50 14
184 Tom Quirke 23:36 SM 148
185 Padraig O Regan 23:37 SM 231
186 Hugh McSweeney 23:38 M70 321
187 Alan Crowley 23:40 M50 237
188 Ben Shorten 23:40 M45 413
189 Jennifer Fitton 23:40 SW 178
190 Greg St Ledger Riverstick Kinsale 23:42 M50 420
191 Darragh O Bric 23:46 SM 123
192 Ger Burke St Nicholas AC 23:50 M40 264
193 Sinead Oakes Nenagh Olympic 23:50 W40 462
194 Shane O Leary 23:53 SM 137
195 Frank Linehan Togher 23:54 M65 363
196 Pat Harrington 23:56 M50 69
197 Adrian Foley Army 23:58 M45 208
198 Kevin O Donovan 24:00 M40 132
199 Thomas P Yelverton 24:01 M40 169
200 Suzanne Twomey 24:03 SW 469
201 Catherine Clancy St Catherines AC 24:06 W45 273
202 Aoibhin O Connor 24:12 SW 465
203 Breeda Herlihy 24:15 W40 442
204 John Walshe East Cork AC 24:16 M65 215
205 Rose Ambrose Tracton AC 24:20 SW 424
206 Kieran O Sullivan 24:22 SM 222
207 Colette Ryan 24:22 W50 155
208 Bernie Mockler Waterford Tri 24:24 W45 450
209 Tomas Deasy 24:24 SM 467
210 Kathy Harringon Buckley St Finbarrs AC 24:26 W50 461
211 Stephen Looney Wibbly Wobbly Wonders 24:27 M40 291
212 James O Mahony Riverstick Kinsale 24:28 M55 429
213 Laurence Gowen 24:30 M45 437
214 Allen Cotter St Nicholas AC 24:32 SM 254
215 Danielle Brouder 24:34 SW 389
216 Lisa Enright 24:35 SW 456
217 Marie O Conghaile Donoughmore 24:42 W55 444
218 Jayne O Bric 24:42 SW 122
219 Robbie Barry 24:45 SM 314
220 Liz Foley 24:46 W40 59
221 Lisa Finn Mallow AC 24:51 W45 217
222 John Healy Wibbly Wobbly Wonders 24:53 M55 293
223 John Cahill 24:54 M50 12
224 Bernie Cahill 24:54 W50 11
225 Leilia Pender Ballymore Cobh AC 24:55 SW 284
226 Michelle Looney Wibbly Wobbly Wonders 24:56 SW 290
227 Liz O Callaghan Riverstick Kinsale 24:58 W45 428
228 David Murphy 24:58 SM 110
229 Gearoid Morley 24:59 SM 384
230 James Spillane 24:59 M40 287
231 Aoibheann Marren 25:01 SW 352
232 Helen Walsh Togher AC 25:02 W40 171
233 Niall O Connor 25:16 SM 129
234 Jamie Linehan 25:16 M40 298
235 Aoife Dineen 25:19 SW 44
236 Patrick Barry 25:22 SM 376
237 Marta Bodenko 25:23 SW 4
238 Luke MacSweeney 25:23 SM 199
239 Dave MacSweeney 25:25 M40 200
240 Jacqueline Bowen Mallow AC 25:26 W45 216
241 Carmel Cohalan 25:26 SW 427
242 Eoghan Walsh 25:27 SM 180
243 Derek Walsh 25:27 M40 166
244 Amelie O Brien 25:28 SW 186
245 Mari Lyne Ballincollig AC 25:28 SW 404
246 Olive McCarthy UCC Staff AC 25:35 W40 214
247 Mary Mulcahy St Finbarrs AC 25:42 W50 449
248 Tara Horgan Wibbly Wobbly Wonders 25:44 W45 353
249 Aideen Crowe 25:51 SW 324
250 Declan Crowe 25:51 M40 323
251 Jack Murray Blarney 25:52 M40 245
252 Clodagh Huggard Togher AC 25:52 SW 355
253 Irene Keohane Eagle AC 25:54 W40 359
254 Carmel Geaney 25:57 W55 407
255 Pawel Switas 25:59 M40 224
256 Paul Forrest Watergrasshill AC 26:04 SM 253
257 Geraldine Kirwan 26:08 W40 89
258 Mark Broderick St Nicholas AC 26:09 SM 337
259 Bernard Coleman 26:11 M40 19
260 Don Bird 26:16 M45 332
261 Fiona Cunningham 26:17 W50 34
262 Bernadette Twomey 26:18 W40 164
263 Evelyn Power 26:20 SW 382
264 Mary Noonan 26:21 W40 114
265 Trevor Deasy Carrigdoon 26:21 M40 277
266 Kieran O Connell 26:22 SM 447
267 Oonagh Coleman 26:24 W50 18
268 26:25 477
269 Charlie Johnson 26:28 M50 386
270 Padraig O Herlihy 26:31 SM 133
271 Margaret Murphy 26:31 W45 266
272 Nessan Frawley 26:37 M55 62
273 John Casey 26:40 M50 306
274 Mary O Halloran 26:44 W45 268
275 Annabel Golden 26:57 W45 64
276 Frank Lingwood 26:59 M55 320
277 Peter O Leary Blarney 26:59 SM 463
278 Mary Tobin 27:00 W45 381
279 Karen Cassidy 27:03 W45 380
280 Gerard Foley 27:07 M50 60
281 Louise Hall 27:12 SW 65
282 Michelle Nagle 27:19 W45 280
283 Kay Birch 27:20 W55 2
284 Dermot O Leary 27:23 M55 419
285 Karen Geasley Ballymore Cobh AC 27:23 SW 270
286 Lesley Feeney St Catherines AC 27:25 W50 283
287 Don Buckley 27:27 M45 9
288 Kerry Constant 27:32 M60 25
289 Liz Hayes 27:33 SW 340
290 William Kelleher 27:34 M50 297
291 Ted O Riordan 27:37 M40 140
292 Mary Lee 27:39 W55 282
293 Helen Hayes Ballymore Cobh AC 27:42 W45 261
294 Deirdre Field O Sullivan 27:42 W40 56
295 Yvonne Gough BHAA 27:43 W45 292
296 Aileen Field 27:44 SW 55
297 Keith Cotter 27:44 M40 328
298 Mark Fuller 27:45 M45 345
299 Elaine Moore 27:47 SW 312
300 Olena Kahramanlar 27:48 SM 79
301 Lorna Kelleher 27:53 W40 358
302 Jim O Keeffe 27:59 M60 344
303 Martin Claffey 28:01 M40 412
304 Grainne Murphy 28:02 SW 107
305 Philip Murphy 28:02 SM 109
306 CAroline O oconnor 28:10 W50 118
307 Sharyn O Callaghan 28:13 W40 184
308 Bernadette Navin 28:16 W40 113
309 Evan Twomey 28:18 M40 318
310 Kieran Stone 28:19 M40 162
311 David Rodgers 28:19 SM 153
312 Adam Duggan 28:26 SM 52
313 Sean O Mahony 28:28 SM 207
314 Judith Kelleher 28:40 W50 246
315 Una McCarthy 28:43 SW 98
316 Claire Crowley 28:46 W40 31
317 Ann Hayes 28:48 W45 72
318 Aisling Fitzpatrick 28:50 W45 57
319 Deonn Delaney 28:50 SW 41
320 Sharon Mullins 28:51 M65 174
321 Brendan Cunningham RDS Athletics Club 28:53 M55 430
322 Samantha Webb 28:56 SW 168
323 Dylan Coakley 28:56 SM 441
324 Cormac Hayes 28:58 SM 341
325 William Hammond 29:03 M55 448
326 Mary Linehan 29:13 W60 362
327 Patrick Clancy St Catherines AC 29:15 M50 269
328 Sara Brookes 29:18 SW 452
329 Denise Buckley Wibbly Wobbly Wonders 29:24 SW 394
330 Margaret Horgan Donoughmore 29:26 W55 443
331 Pat Curran 29:26 M40 35
332 Alan O Keeffe 29:28 M50 134
333 Ursula Dillon 29:32 W55 459
334 Joe Fahy 29:35 SM 367
335 Marie Cronin-Hackett 29:36 SW 29
336 Tina O Sullivan 29:41 SW 309
337 Dan Kelleher 29:47 M40 83
338 Reidin Doyle 29:48 SW 49
339 Kevin Doyle 29:49 M55 50
340 Mary Murphy 29:49 W55 105
341 Janis Lynch 29:55 SW 93
342 Claire Lynch 29:55 SW 92
343 Marie Crowley 29:57 SW 436
344 Elmerie Cunniffe 30:03 SW 426
345 Manuela Suttnig Run2Gether Austria 30:04 SW 342
346 Rita Broderick Castlelyons 30:08 W50 338
347 Colm Rawley 30:10 SM 150
348 Noel McCarthy 30:18 M45 96
349 Caitraona Walsh 30:21 SW 165
350 Anne Tangney 30:25 W50 391
351 Mehmet Kahramanlar 30:31 SM 78
352 Jonathan McSweeney 30:34 M40 421
353 Tanya Laffan 30:37 SW 185
354 Siobhan Holland 30:47 SW 460
355 Gavin Coleman Macroom 30:52 M45 402
356 Valerie Hennessy 30:55 SW 74
357 Anne McKeown Ballymore Cobh AC 30:56 W45 348
358 Rachel Hegarty Ballymore Cobh AC 30:57 W50 347
359 Barry O Connell 30:57 SM 128
360 Orla Rawley 31:00 SW 149
361 Jennifer Walsh O'Brien 31:04 W40 167
362 Aileen O Leary 31:06 SW 135
363 Maeve O Halloran 31:06 SW 267
364 Michael Harris 31:12 M50 71
365 David Hughes 31:13 M40 77
366 Catherine Desmond 31:15 SW 415
367 Alex Carey 31:17 SM 183
368 Jonathan Carey Couch to 5K 31:17 SM 182
369 Colette Culver 31:24 W55 32
370 Deirdre Clarke 31:26 W40 275
371 Sinead Clarke 31:26 SW 17
372 Niamh Tuohy 31:27 SW 163
373 Olive Kelly 31:28 W45 85
374 Esther Kennelly 31:34 W50 86
375 Ben Fahy 31:35 SM 366
376 Caitlin Fahy 31:35 W40 365
377 Kathryn Satter 31:52 SW 157
378 Mary Healy Wibbly Wobbly Wonders 31:54 W55 294
379 Jennifer Ring Wibblies 31:54 W40 259
380 Jack O Connell 31:57 M55 431
381 Katie Collins 31:58 SW 23
382 Gail Hegarty 31:59 W40 73
383 Kieran O Connell 32:03 M50 379
384 Miriam O Shea Pat Walsh Running 32:05 W45 271
385 Liz Barry 32:20 SW 315
386 Sandra Murphy 32:22 SW 106
387 Ciara Bogue 32:22 SW 5
388 Cian O Leary 32:37 SM 136
389 Nicola Patterson 32:44 W40 147
390 Karen O Mahony 32:47 W40 117
391 Emma Harrington 32:47 W40 67
392 Jean Conroy 32:50 W40 24
393 Helen O Donoghue Kinsale AC 32:52 W60 317
394 Emily Chambers 32:54 SW 16
395 Mary Cotter 32:55 SW 27
396 Catherine Manning 32:55 W40 95
397 Robert O Sullivan 32:56 SM 145
398 Pat Kelly 32:56 W45 173
399 Niall Collins 32:57 M55 225
400 Carol Leahy Ballymore Cobh AC 33:07 W45 349
401 Eucharia Gould Ballymore Cobh AC 33:08 W45 350
402 Ashley O Keeffe Wibbly Wobbly Wonders 33:09 SW 401
403 Jean Twomey Wibbly Wobbly Wonders 33:11 W40 400
404 Paddy Doyle 33:14 M50 177
405 Angela Cashman 33:15 W45 13
406 Mairead O Sullivan 33:26 W40 142
407 Aileen O Sullivan 33:29 SW 119
408 Geraldine Downing Carrigaline Road Runners 33:34 W50 243
409 Michael Collins 33:38 M60 418
410 Loretta Dineen 33:48 W40 43
411 Bernice Glavin MCI 33:48 W55 281
412 Denise Kelleher 33:51 W45 466
413 Dolores Murphy 34:15 W45 104
414 Dave Murphy 34:32 M45 378
415 Regina Murphy Wibbly Wobbly Wonders 34:33 W40 375
416 Cliona O Sullivan 34:33 SW 143
417 Bernard O Donovan 34:34 M40 251
418 Claire Dunne 34:36 W40 53
419 Kay Delaney 34:39 W50 40
420 Lisa Bishop 35:11 W40 3
421 Aibhlin Corkery 35:54 W50 26
422 Helena Doyle 36:46 SW 48
423 Laurence Murphy 37:34 M65 108
424 Fiona Doyle 37:34 W40 457
425 Gemma Downing Carrigaline Road Runners 37:59 SW 244
426 David Cotter 38:14 SM 331
427 Emily Cotter 38:14 SW 327
428 Imran Lone 38:53 SM 91
429 Alma O Sullivan 39:19 SW 144
430 Louise McGrathLone 42:21 SW 97
431 Jim Finn 42:24 M70 307
432 Aoife Cotter 45:42 SW 330
433 Claire Cotter 45:42 SW 329
5 comments:
Quick registration, good stewarding, clean get away and a good cause.
The only improvement you'd want is a less winding course, but the location dictates that. Well done all involved.
Great fast track and a nice Xmas run. Well marshalled and a great post run spread of cakes!
Well done to Togher A.C. for a very well organised race.
From shuttle buses to a plentiful amount of stewards to pacers, (a first for me to witness in a 5k), they did an excellent job.
First time doing the run, got a great day for it, stayed dry. Was well organized and course may have been winding but was probably more interesting that way, and minimized disruption to any traffic. As said, great spread of sandwiches, cakes and biscuits after, and bonus t-shirt was nice for the 50th 'birthday' of the club. Thanks to all involved!
great race great day out . Well done to all involved . and it stayed dry this time
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