tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post2740957609583264983..comments2024-03-28T18:16:43.661+00:00Comments on Running in Cork, Ireland: View from the Back...Pt.1John Desmondhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02156613639160765654noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-11609306477898269602014-09-23T07:42:17.353+01:002014-09-23T07:42:17.353+01:00Say,for a five mile race the more sub 27 minute fi...Say,for a five mile race the more sub 27 minute finishers the better - not near enough is done by Athletics Ireland, etc to get athletes to that level - but in a race those in the back deserve the equal amount of respect from organisers, stewards, and front runners when cooling down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-25946541251420333442014-09-18T23:57:49.774+01:002014-09-18T23:57:49.774+01:00At the most recent 10 mile 400 of the 500 or so fi...At the most recent 10 mile 400 of the 500 or so finishers ran 1'30 or faster. So really the majority of runners supporting races with their entry fees are running at quite a reasonably fit level. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-16722166592894790482014-09-18T23:47:13.030+01:002014-09-18T23:47:13.030+01:00We also need to consider the perspective of the vo...We also need to consider the perspective of the volunteers who Marshall these races. Having marshalled at ten mile road races it can be tough if there is a big wait for a small number of finishers who can sometimes be walking the course. Volunteers are not in it to receive anything from someone's entry fee and are usually there as a favour to the race organisers and the race itself. I think Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-55656053573693237032014-09-18T21:40:22.800+01:002014-09-18T21:40:22.800+01:00Just to note that The flyer that came with the rac...Just to note that The flyer that came with the race bib for the John Buckley 10 mile race last weekend did state that race participants should at least be fit enough to run the event. if you're going to enter a race the least that should be expected of you is to have trained for it? If someone enters a race with the aim to 'walk' it or most of it then that person is indeed holding up Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-30433410370773569652014-09-18T13:32:44.700+01:002014-09-18T13:32:44.700+01:00Maybe when races are being advertised the cut off ...Maybe when races are being advertised the cut off time should be on the posters. It Would be a lot easier for people who start running to see if the race is for them.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02238701836573175313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-20197621772157382312014-09-18T09:58:42.033+01:002014-09-18T09:58:42.033+01:00The down the field runners"walkers" as t...The down the field runners"walkers" as they call themselves need to wake up.its called a race for a race for s reason.plus the sub 27 min runner is only behind by 2 mins in local cork race normally wonin 25.not 35 mins behind.the stewards cant be expected to wait that long.they have prob being there all day organising it on there own time.and as for there being no races without the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-90199602107276288682014-09-18T08:43:25.933+01:002014-09-18T08:43:25.933+01:00Some very valid points being made but also remembe...Some very valid points being made but also remember how inconsiderate us fellow runners can be some times as we stroll back to hall / car with our medal, t-shirt and PB in pocket and do not look out for the slower finishers and fail to encourage them. The race isn't over until we all cross the line, and I have been at numerous races where very well marshalled events have stewards shouting at Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-37090878900859446622014-09-18T08:05:13.395+01:002014-09-18T08:05:13.395+01:00To be fair to the CORK BHAA they always provide fo...To be fair to the CORK BHAA they always provide for all runners....I have seen these guys manning mile markers when I was finished and driving home but been a 'down the field' runner myself I totally agree with the comments.<br />It is very discouraging to see mile markers been lifted when there are back markers still down the road.<br /><br />Maybe the clubs and those that are organizingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-50002931664826323442014-09-18T02:34:08.405+01:002014-09-18T02:34:08.405+01:00The reason why races are so cheap is not due to ma...The reason why races are so cheap is not due to mass participation but due to the volunteerism that is there in the sport. Mass participation races in the US cost much much more than here but they have to pay everyone who is helping out. I am all for "reasonable" time limits on races. No one should be walking in a running race and expecting everything to be there at the finish.<br /><brAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-88801695069353454712014-09-17T22:30:17.131+01:002014-09-17T22:30:17.131+01:00As always John Desmond, fair play for highlighting...As always John Desmond, fair play for highlighting this. I think that it is not unreasonable to have organisers cleaning up or wraping up as most if not all are volunteers but a simple solution of allowing a broom wagon/Cyclist to follow last runner and I repeat Runner, could help enormously and not have last finisher feeling abandoned. As for Mr /Ms Sub 27 minute athlete, 1. this post does notMikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-35449049455789845742014-09-17T20:36:11.712+01:002014-09-17T20:36:11.712+01:00Well said back of the pack!! For the sub 27 min 5 ...Well said back of the pack!! For the sub 27 min 5 miler - it's the like of you that puts us average or lesser runners as you may see us off!!! Tracy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-60336539592332939462014-09-17T18:52:01.427+01:002014-09-17T18:52:01.427+01:00will they be a part 2? will they be a part 2? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-55544281928626866882014-09-17T18:47:06.088+01:002014-09-17T18:47:06.088+01:00Very good piece, as above organisers have duty of ...Very good piece, as above organisers have duty of care to wait until all runners have crossed the line. On t-shirts most races in the UK give out medals to the finishers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-84018613052169874262014-09-17T17:46:05.045+01:002014-09-17T17:46:05.045+01:00It is in the smaller races that this is a real pro...It is in the smaller races that this is a real problem. I came second last in a race a couple of years ago with the ambulance driving behind me all the way! That is a lot of pressure and not an enjoyable experience. It didn't turn me off though as I'm still running. If I'm interested in running a race, I check the results from the previous year to see the times of the last few Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-63508375426899470992014-09-17T17:25:33.653+01:002014-09-17T17:25:33.653+01:00The number of t-shirts is well documented now. Dif...The number of t-shirts is well documented now. Difficult for races to have the right number especially in sizes. Having an excess of 300/800 must be expensive and then you have people complaining about the price to enter. While some lessons can be learned it is also impossible to please everyone. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-77207682166333707272014-09-17T17:22:44.325+01:002014-09-17T17:22:44.325+01:00Think this post is designed to cause a bit of deba...Think this post is designed to cause a bit of debate!.i started off as a slow runner too but now im now a sub 27min runner for the 5 miles.i dont consider 60mins for a 5mile race as running!,anyone that trains hard enough wouldnt be that far back.thats why all marthons have time limits.if they arent happy with it,there are plenty of park runs and fun runs etcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-4818962125680192252014-09-17T16:11:53.941+01:002014-09-17T16:11:53.941+01:00Great post, valid point too.Great post, valid point too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-65982047431133449232014-09-17T15:20:53.262+01:002014-09-17T15:20:53.262+01:00Very well said.. There needs to be equal support f...Very well said.. There needs to be equal support for all runners, no matter what time the runner finishes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-32900288897205336062014-09-17T11:58:13.786+01:002014-09-17T11:58:13.786+01:00Here here;Well done to writer and John for highlig...Here here;Well done to writer and John for highlighting an important fact.We all pay the same entry and go out with intention of doing the best we can and sometimes end up finishing a race like a second class citizen. Numerous times I have come in towards end of pack to find out organisers have run out of water ,bananas, proper size t shirt etc. Remember, without us slower runners races might notAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-61962148751780398592014-09-17T11:52:21.736+01:002014-09-17T11:52:21.736+01:00Spot on. We need to encourage people to get out ru...Spot on. We need to encourage people to get out running and this sort of thing discourages older and more challenged runners. We'll all be in that category some day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36499493.post-28867826884156488332014-09-17T11:22:14.583+01:002014-09-17T11:22:14.583+01:00This is one of the best ever items that has ever a...This is one of the best ever items that has ever appeared in your blog John.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com