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Monday, June 06, 2011

Results of the 2011 Cork City Marathon...

There was another great turnout for this year's Cork City Marathon with just under 1400 taking part in the full event. Comparing that to previous years, it's about the same level.

In the mens race, the 2010 winner Sergiu Ciobanu returned to defend his title by winning in a time of 2:25:34, well clear of the 2nd man Alan Foolkes in 2:31:03. In 3rd place, local man Colin Merritt ran 2:31:59. Wieslaw Sosnowski ran 2:32:47 for 4th with Lorcan Cronin running 2:33:36 to finish 5th.
In the womens event, it was a case of third times a charm as Angela McCann of Clonmel AC won in a time of 2:53:31 having finished 2nd in both 2009 and 2010. Angela is runnning some great times this year having won the European F40 Masters Half-Marathon Championships in France recently.

There was a gap of a few minutes to the 2nd place woman Mary Scully in 2:57:11 while the 3rd placed woman Anne Curley was just behind in 2:57:38. In 4th spot, Mary O'Leary ran 2:59:16 while Ann-Marie of Eagle AC held off a strong challenge to finish 5th in 3:02:40.

(Updated 10th June)
The full results with categories for the Full Marathon can be found HERE


Approximately 1000 runners took part in the Half-Marathon and this was won by TJ McHugh (72:51) and Lizzie Lee of Leevale AC (79:45).
The full results for the Half-Marathon with categories can be found HERE

Relay...Approx 750 teams.......Provisional results HERE
Angela McCann of Clonmel AC winning the 2011 Cork City Marathon

Photos........(Updated Sun 12th June @2pm)
1) A nice gallery of 305 photos near the start of the race HERE
2) Another gallery of 333 photos HERE
3) A large gallery of photos by Gearoid O'Laoi HERE
4) Another large gallery of over 2000 photos by Doug Minihane HERE (Updated 8th June)
5) Peter Mooney has a small gallery of photo around the 4:45 - 5:10 finish HERE
6) Noel Kelleher has a gallery of approx 450 photos. Some great shots of the start, Silversprings and Patricks Street at the end....Click HERE (Updated 9th June)
7) Newphotostyle has a large series of commercial photos HERE
8) SportCam have a large gallery of commercial photos that can be searched by name or bib number. Click HERE (Updated 10th June)
9) A gallery of 76 photos near the start HERE (Updated 11th June)
10) A small gallery of 16 photos from Merchants Quay HERE (Updated 11th June)
11) A gallery of 175 photos from Penrose Wharf HERE (Updated 11th June)
12) A small gallery of 24 photos on the Marina HERE (Updated 11th June)
13) There is a searchable index of finishing videos HERE (Updated 12th June)

Irish International Racewalker Rob Heffernan of Togher AC
taking part in the Relay event

Now that the 2011 Cork City Marathon in over, it's time to reflect on it and see what went right and what went wrong.

Weather.......For the first time in 5 years, it was perfect. Nice and sunny at the start....soon clouded up......wind was light....temperature was in the low teens which for June is as good as it gets. The only bad point perhaps was the rain that arrived for anyone who still out on the course after 5 hours.

Half-Marathon........The decision to limit the numbers before the event was obviously now the correct decision. There was just too many Marathon and Relay runners on the course in the later stages for the faster Half-Marathon runners to try and get through. Obviously in future, the Half-Marathon will attract huge numbers but the format will probably need to be looked at.

So how did the event go for you? Any issues? What worked or didn't work? Did you run the Half? Click on the comment link below...


Video....
1) Short clip of the North Gate Bridge between miles 1 and 2....


A different kind of Marathon video. I had fogotten all about this guy singing at the start of the walkway until I saw this video...

95 comments:

Anonymous said...

Great race well done to all the organisers, i did the half and really enjoyed it but think it should have started an hour earlier.

Mike said...

I did the half and I loved it. I don't know the details of organizing the whole thing, but I agree with the the first commenter, a bit earlier would have been nice.
Thanks for the work that ye have put into this whole thing. The day was great!

Anonymous said...

Did the half and loved every minute. A big thank u to all the organisers, stewards and people out on the streets. Great experience but agree with the others a earlier start would be great.

Anonymous said...

did the full and was a great event ..could do with more physio's at the end of the race to give people a quick rub down ....

Anonymous said...

Yeah have to agree...doing the half I felt a bit out of it and an hour earlier would be just the job. Loved running in it though...great event.

Angela is some runner....I watched her come through the half start point and she is like a machine, very economic running style, great performance.

Anonymous said...

Well done to all on a great day! Ran the 1/2M and as John said, passing the relay runners was a bit dicey at times, but didn't prove too troublesome. Just an idea to have different finishing lanes for marathon, 1/2M and relays after the end line (a-la The Limerick run this year,this proved to be very successful.)

Anonymous said...

I was only watching (and taking a 'small few' photos!!) but thought it went off quite well. I agree with the comments about the congestion for the faster half-marathoners though. Also the amount of bicycles, especially on the narrower parts - The Mahon Walkway and the Walkway at 25mls into the Distillery. Saw one guy in Mahon nearly take out 3 or 4 runners and didn't even realise he had done it. They should be banned from any of these narrower stretches. Just my tuppence worth!!
D.

Anonymous said...

Ran full - last year and last leg of relay this year
Brilliant event - v well organised
Realized this year how important the relay is for race atmosphere - as a relay runner you feel a little left out at the end but that's running -I bet a lot of the relay runners go on to the full the following year. Next year is Olympic year and should be massive - I'm doing the full next year
PG

John Desmond said...

Ref Bicycles....someone else mentioned to me that bicycles were a problem on the course.

Alan said...

Ran the full, very dissaapointed with the lack of energy drinks on offer, I got a sip of lucozade sport at 18 miles out of a cup. I would have carried my own bottle if I had known this. 26.2 is to far on water alone. Would have killed for a banana as well.
Having said that I enjoyed the race and a new PB.

Anonymous said...

bicycles were a problem,it's one thing to glance over your shoulder to see if another runner is coming but you don't expect a cyclist to be coming.
That said the Guard on the motorbike had no good reason to pass a load of runners just before the last relay changeover.
Starting the half earlier would not have been fair on the full and relay runners as so many would have been passed before the finish.
I ran the half and thought the start time was fine.

Fiona said...

I ran the half today. Fabulous day out and a PB for me. Cyclists were a bit if an issue and it wasn't until I spoke to another runner after the race that I was told the energy drinks were after the water at the stations. These were minor glitches for my race though. Overall 100% thumbs up for me. Great support from all - super organisation. Will be taking plenty of tips for the Clon run in December! Well done Cork.

Anonymous said...

Enjoyed the race, delighted with my time. The 3:15 pacers were absolutely brilliant!!!! But I have to say cups aren't good enough for a marathon.

Anonymous said...

Yes i'd agree with the complaints about the bikes-it's hard enough to run 26.2 without having to avoid coaches on bikes-they are trying to cycle slow alongside runners and are wabbling all over the course.
Good to see that the organisation has improved again and was impressed with the amount of water stations-bananas at small stage would have been a welcome addition-(maybe they were available but i did not spot them. That section between 17 & 21 is rough-if going for a time i think you need to be 5 mins ahead at half way to account for the drag that's coming up
Lying in bed here -legs destroyed

Anonymous said...

Excellent organisation again this year. Did the full, was suprised to see cups being passed out at some water stops, not really suitable. Happy out with the day and my new pb!

G said...

Ran the full marathon yesterday and overall I really enjoyed the course, I had a great run. I think it has a good balance of hills and flats and plenty to look at while you run. I definitely agree with the other posters about cyclists on the course, I think it's really dangerous - it's the first time I've ever seen that in a race. I love the idea of the half marathon, but I'm not sure about the timing of the two races. For me, I found that when I was struggling around the 21 mile mark and trying to maintain my pace, I was being passed (and in one or two cases, almost knocked down!) by the half marathoners, and it really threw me off. An hour earlier might work better. I also think the finish line area could be a bit more streamlined, I had to slow down crossing the mats or I would have run straight into a wall of people trying to collect their medals and bananas! It would be good if the runners could be funnelled a little further down Patrick Street to keep the finish line clear. All in all though, a good course and well organised.

Mark said...

Ran the ful thing and though it all went off very well. The offical website would have had better information on the water stations though. I gout the information from a pal, and was able to plan properly for it.

I though the T-Shirts were great. My wife is thrilled with the luminous one.

The Spectators were great, loads of sweets and oranges, and even one woman had a tub of vaseline.

Anonymous said...

John,
5th year taking part and overall I'd say it was a well organised event, and is a good course etc. I ran the half and think the 11:30 start made it very difficult on us. We were running into 5hr marathon runners from the Marina on. This is not ideal for either group as the pace differential is unsettling / disheartening for 1 group and the weaving /bobbing unsettling for the other. You're talking about 1 group running at 5:00-7:00+ minute miles joining with runners at 9:00-11:00+ min-miles. The issue really came to a head along the Mardyke and distillery walkway stretches which were very congested.A tad unfair to both groups, but not the end of the world.
I have major issues with people on bikes who were cycling slowly with friends (coaching/encouraging). It was impossible to predict what they were about to do as you approached.The slow cycling can be very erratic. The last thing you want is to be hit by a pedal or handlebars. On the open road this type encouragement is fine but when their pace slows considerably towards the end, get off the bike and run/walk with them if you want, don't cycle next to them.
Great event, great buzz about the place and it is fantastic to see thousands enjoying the running scene. Long may it last.
Keep up the good work and thanks for all the great info last week.
Fergus

Anonymous said...

Organizers are to be congratulated on a well run event. A couple of points though (1) I would agree with the comments earlier re time - in fact why cant the whole event be brought forward to 8 am? After all the vendors in the city are not going to lose out at all as majority of crowds are in the City, am sure the Gardai too would prefer an ealier start to clear the roads. (2) disqualify those utterly selfish runners who bring a pacer or a helper with them on a bike - zig-zagging on their bikes in and out of the runners - whatever about the relay and half-marathon runners it is extremely inconsiderate to expect the marathon runners heading into miles, 17, 18 and onwards to be dodging a half-marathoners companion on a bike - DQ them on the spot - and Marshalls should be far more proactive in this regard too. If a runner doing a half-marathon needs that much support, them I'd say they shouldn't be running a half-marathon. By all means have someone at certain junctions/locations to hand you over gels etc .. but how dare you be out on the run course you selfish selfish people. (3) ear phones ?were these not banned?? Why do only some of us have to follow the rules and not everyone - or are our road races turning into mirror images of our political system - where its one rule for the select few and another for the majority???

John Desmond said...

Ref Headphones...I'd have to go looking for the exact quote but as far as I can remember, I think they were 'discouraged' but not banned for this event.

Eileen on the run said...

I ended up on an early bus out to Mahon (having waved off the 'real' marathoners from Patrick Street at 9) so was frozen standing around for so long waiting for the half to start. Every one of us was thrilled when we finally got running. An earlier time would be much better if possible.
I agree that bikes should be banned from most of the course; generally, the riders were fine but I did see a few who were riding amongst runners and it looked pretty dodgy.
A big thanks to the two guys fm BHAA down in Mahon who conjured up a load of ponchos when the rain came down!!! Another fab race - now what's next...

Anonymous said...

Headphones were not banned... Not encouraged but certainly not banned.

Just one small point regarding marshals on the course. There were a couple of occasions where children were running alongside or in-between runners in full view of the marshals, in fact just before the half start there were 2 running down the road in the opposite direction to the runners. Marshals are there to try and prevent this for everyone's safety.

Great day though, and I thought the odd musical interlude along the way from the bands was a nice touch.

Anonymous said...

i think people go a bit nuts over the headphones thing. i don't see the big issue-it hardly makes you faster. the bike people while well meaning should not be allowed on the course. well organised and fair play to stewards etc but no water bottles from 15 to 21/22- water cups are a throwback to the 1980's!!!! the offical website is dire and a rubdown would have been nice at the end but all in all a great day. was hoping for a 3.50, got a PB of 3.53

Anonymous said...

Fair enough, if the wording is "discouraged" not banned for the Cork Marathon event. I stand to be corrected by my understanding is with the BHAA races that the Ban on headphones is designed for the safety of the runners - both the person running with the headphones and everyone else around them. I dont have a problem with that, nor to the organizers. You cannot hear marshall instructions if you are plugged into a set of earphones.

Anonymous said...

There is a very simple way to deal with cyclists accompanying runners and that is to not give the runner (s) they are accompanying an official finishing time. No one wants to go to the trouble of doing either a marathon or half-marathon official event and not get an official time. We the runners should actively discourage them from doing this as its our - the rest of us - that they interfere with. But, credit where credit is due, and congrats to Cork organizers, all the volunteers out on the course, the backroom folks, civil defence, gardai, all of whom made this a great day out, thank you.

Anonymous said...

I would just like to speak my mind publicly about the sheer humiliation i was subjected to during the Half yesterday. I have been a runner for many years but never during my lifetime did anyone i was competing with shouted jeering comments as they ran away from me! I thought it was incredibly crude and lacked dignity. It was unsportsman like. Running is something i enjoy doing to get away from reality of life for an hour, i hate that it's being ruined like this.This type of abuse needs to be pointed out as our sport is a minority, i hate this element creeping in. If you want a jeering match pick up another sport.

Anonymous said...

Very enjoyable race yesterday and the conditions were perfect. Ran the half in around 90min and thought it was a bit congested towards the end alright. No idea how this could be overcome though as an earlier start might see the slower half marathoners causing congestion for some marathoners.

RE the bicycles, only noticed the one(which i nearly knocked off) on the walkway towards the end. Didn't bother me that much though.

Anonymous said...

Very little atmosphere for half marathon compared to other years. i think this was because we started too late and most of the spectators had gone when we were making our way round. Fair play to the ones who stayed on - they were fantastic.

the wait at the half start was awful: cold, wet, no shelter at all. we had been advised to be there early at registration and were freezing by the time the start came. i was told by one of the stewards the reason there were no water bottles was because they had no sponsors.

Jane said...

I am untterly horrifed that somebody would make snide remarks at another participant and I would like to think that an ingorant oaf like that is in the minority!! I ran the half marathon and I enjoyed it overall. I thought that the marshalls were great and very encouraging plus the people at the water stations were lovely. I have to say the water cups were a disaster, I ended up with more water down my front than in my mouth. The bikes were lethal! They should not be allowed on narrow stretches of road. I felt so proud of the people of our city with their words of encouragment, the oranges, the jellies, the vaseline and the music... absolutely terrific. As a runner who would be classed as more tortoise than hare I would say that people should be more considerate when lining up to start. It is not fair on people who are fast that they have to wind their way through masses of slower paced runners, I would never line up at the top because I know I would be in the way and frustrate people! Although I only run about a 9 min mile even I got annoyed with having to try and get around walkers along the narrow start of the Half. Looking forward to next year already and doing the full thing.

Anonymous said...

Did the half and really loved it. Agree with other comments though that it needs to start earlier. I was running 6:20's while the marathoners were doing 10:00's.

This got dangerous on a few sections of the course. Especially the narrow section leading onto the north mall.

I think if they were even doing 8:00's that would of been a lot easier for everyone. Which is only a half hour earlier start for the half marathon.

Also had problems with slow bikes. I almost hit one trying to squeeze beween him and his buddy.

Anonymous said...

Ran the full marathon and enjoyed it.. Must say though I agree entirely with other comments about the water cups, they were a disaster... And the lack of energy drinks was disappointing too.. More bottles of energy drinks are definitely needed for a full marathon..
Also agree that the finish line was too congested and some more physios for a quick rub down afterwards would have been very welcome..
Some minor issues, but generally a very well organised and enjoyable event..

Emily said...

Ran/walked the full yesterday. Wrecked but delighted! Just one point on the half marathon...I was running along quite steadily until mile 17 when suddenly I was pushed to the side by a huge crowd of sprinting halfer's. Massively intimidating to look back at the sea of people and I really lost heart at this point for about a mile. It did even out then but it did make it harder psychologically. I prefer water cups as you can just throw it straight into your mouth! Also, I would have killed for a banana halfway around. I love my gorgeous yellow top!

Anonymous said...

Great day, well done to all who took part and everybody that made the day possible, definately an issue with the half marathon pace meeting marathon pace, saw a few collisions and lots of runners having to break stride, headphones definately impede a participants awareness of other runners approaching, cyclists should really be asked to stay off the course, water cups especially for those taking part in the marathon are just a nightmare, small bottles like previous years are the way to go,

Anonymous said...

I ran the half marathon yesterday. Lovely course and set a new P.B.. Also have to agree with some of the other points. Negatives: awful starting area(ie. cold and no shelter), hard to drink from the cups,very congested along centre park rd and the distillery, bikes on the course. Positives: very helpful stewards, half marathon start very well organised according to predicted finishing times, plenty of support on the course, plenty of water at the finish and bananas.
I agree it was very difficult weaving in and out when passing people but I suppose there is very little you can do about that. I was running between 7.30 and 8.00 pace and found it difficult so it must have been frustrating for the sub 7 minute milers. I witnessed a half marathoner nearly knock down two marathon runners who were running side by side! They were at 22 miles ! It was very selfish.

Overall though everyone I spoke to had a fantastic experience. Cork has to be commended, from the workers in city hall to the bus drivers, to the stewards and of course the public who were out with jellies, oranges, hoses,water and of course words of encouragement. My lasting memory of yesterday will be of deliriously happy marathon runners coming over the line who I had passed at 20 miles suffering with cramp and exhaustion. I can not express the amount of admiration and respect I have for ye. well done!

Anonymous said...

I did the Half yesterday, great course and fast as you'll get in my mind.

Weaving through the runners is a great mental thing but the Half start was an hour too late. They were lucky with the weather, if it was last year and people had to hang around in the rain, the complaints were be ten times worse.

The cyclists pacing relay runners was amazing and daft, esp around the Mardyke. What were the marshalls doing letting bikes onto a very narrow bit of road with people running and giving their all, esp the marathon runners? Had to shout at 3 cyclists wobblying around the place that a runner was coming from behind and one of them told me to be quiet.

I know the relay is what probably keeps the event going but they need to pull bikes off the course, its an accident waiting to happen.

Anonymous said...

I really enjoyed the race. Buzz was amazing. Agree RE bikes etc but im sure it will be easily sorted for next year. Overall good experience, roll on Dingle in September.

Anonymous said...

Fabulous day out, loved it and thank you for putting on a full half marathon. I've only one criticism (sorry!) to make..and that was the cyclists on the course. I got an ear full of abuse off one half marathon runner for daring to ask (tell) his cyclist to stop criss-crossing back-forth in between the runners -this was on the road coming up from the Lough, left down the hill towards the graveyard, then right onto the wilton road, left onto the Model farm road, thru inchigaggin lane, onto the straight road - eventually I passed the pair of them along the mardkye walk - I know the marshalls are busy on the day - but they have got to be instructed to pull cyclists doing this - pull both the runner and the cyclist - it is very dangerous, it also gives them an unfair advantage over other runners, therefore in my book it is cheating, and is utterly inconsiderate to fellow runners especially the marthon runners (mind you its not like they've got a conscience is it?) ..i got this guys race number and have given it to the race officials. I think as runners ourselves we have to shoulder some of the responsibility for policing what goes on - they certainly do in Dublin, in London and anywhere else I have run, the marshalls cannot see everything. This still did not spoil my day out and I look forward to coming back next year.

Anonymous said...

Agree the comments re Bikes

as for the other
Headphones, I had pleaty of people without headphones cut across me. It's incosiderate people are the problems.

Bikes should be strongly discouraged. and banned across the bridge and alongs the path to the north mall.

Most water stations had bottles, I used to take 2 at almost every station, Drink one quickly and run with the other one for a while. Cups arn't ideal but they do keep the cost down considerably

I used to take two lucosade cups at the stations. Few enough runners will want a full lucosade and there would be serious wastge

As for the pacing and the half marathon. I agree that the start was a bit late, but the event is a marathon, half marathoners shold have the decency to avoid the runners who have run 13 miles more than them. and pushing other runners out of the way is not on at all, even if they are running slower than you.

Less of the negativity, It was a fabulourly run event in my opinion. Loads of water stops, Songes, pleanty water bottles, lots of spectators with food and even vaseline, There were even a few stops with sports drinks,

The full event T-shirts were geat, thoug from what I hear the half t-shirts wern't the best.

As said before thanks to all the organisers, stweards, Guardai, and spectators, and the musicians who came along and played for us. ( was there more than one steel band or did they keep moving

Anonymous said...

I did the full (my 5th)and I had forgotten how difficult a marathon is, especially from mile 18 to 26, even in nearly ideal conditions. That being said, I thought the organisation and stewarding was excellent. I received an e-mail from Cork City Marathon last Friday which detailed the water stations, including whether it was bottles or cups, so I was prepared in that regard. I simply skipped the cup stations as I find it easier to drink from bottles on the run. The encouragement from spectators and the half marathon and relay runners as they awaited their starts was a great boost. Well done to the organisers on a fantastic occasion. It made me proud to be from Cork.

Eric said...

I was really proud to run Cork marathon.To get the support from the locals and to see kids at the side of the road with sweets and oranges was heart warming well done to everyone who made the effort to come out and support the runners.I thought it was well organised and everyone was helpuill.There was no shortage of water although the cups are a disaster I one of these people that it ends going up there nose and choking.Overall it was a very positive exprience well done to all involved

Anonymous said...

Did the full marathon (my first) Thought the course was very fair and generally the race was very well organised. It was a little bit demoralising to have the half marathon gang sprinting past you after 18 miles but the encouragement that alot of halfers and relayers gave me was badly needed and much appreciated.Bottles are for water, cups are for tea!Generally though very well organised and very enjoyable.People who lined the streets were FANTASTIC!

Anonymous said...

My first Cork marathon. very well organised overall. bikes were a big issue especially in the mahon walkway. cups for water helped me alot as i had planned to walk alot of the water breaks and with cups i had to anyway.A lot of runners would be unhappy with this thou. The half marathon and the relay runners gave us the full marathon runners fantasic support thru out the race a big thank you guys badly needed in places.overall a great success thanks to all involved

Anonymous said...

Hi John,

Well done on the new look site. I had to watch yesterday unfortunately due to injury but really enjoyed the day. Nice to actually see a marathon live. Well done to all involved and all those who took part. Would have to seriously agree with those following runners on bikes. It's an athletics event. They should be banned from the course. Again, well done to all and to the pacers including yourself. Saw ye encouraging many a runner in to meet his goal time. I'm sure it was greatly appreciated.

Anonymous said...

Great event yesterday a far better atmosphere than last year. Ran a couple of relay legs myself out on the more remote parts of the course (Dunkettle, South Ring, Mahon etc.) and was amazed at the number of people who were out there supporting the athletes, many of them having made their way there on bikes. Most kept their distance from the athletes and really added to the occasion. Afterwards I hopped on my own bike and went around to the other side of the course to support my relay team.

So something good to be said for cyclists after all!

Anonymous said...

Great event only thing was water cups are completely useless. If running the full marathon like I did you need water bottles at every station cups are useless. Sponges were great though. No water bottles between about 15 miles and 21 miles. Joke shop.

Anonymous said...

Hi, i did the last leg of the relay yesterday and took the bus from outside city hall to modal farm road, but we ended up been stuck on the bus for 40 mins complete standstill, due to the route taken we could not pass the road because of runners. So the bus driver then had to do a u turn and by the time we all arrived at the changeover our relay partners were already waiting. Not impressed.

Anonymous said...

Water
On the issue of water it is proposed to have even more stations with plastic cups rather than bottles for next year's marathon.This is due to the high costs of bottled water and is also seen to be more environmentally friendly

Anonymous said...

I did the full and it was my 1st marathon,everything was great but id like a little moan about the mahon relay change near the half start, I came thro there and the road was covered in people, kids running in and out of runners and relay runners waiting all over the road, the marshalls at each other stop were great calling full runners to the left or right at mahon tho we had to dodge thro them all over the road. i gotta shove off someone and nearly went head over heels.

Sayin that the rest of the race was very well marshalled but really think mahon needs looking at next year maybe cone of two lanes for relay and full at that point. plus keep the kids off the roads

Derek said...

I was a 'halfer' yesterday and enjoyed the race. Bikes are ok on the roads but maybe should not be allowed on walkways. Although I think Dublin marathon has a ban on bikes and outside assistance... It is a bit unfair for other people running the full that carry all their own gels etc etc.

I tried to give some support to people in pain who were running the full on those last couple of miles. I Got some good support from other runners too. I only had to doge 1 bike on the path near the distillery/north mall but no big deal really.

Regarding drinking water from paper cups. Here is a trick I learned in my last full marathon. Grab the cup, squeeze the top together and fold in 2. Now fold the top in 2 again. You can now fit all of the flattened/folded top into your mouth and squeeze the water into your mouth like a bottle. Wont work with plastic cups as they will crack but It works with the paper ones!!
Derek

Anonymous said...

Ran my first full yesterday and broke 4 hours. Thanks so much for previewing all five stages. I am certain it all contributed to my time.

I thought it was a very well run event. My biggest crib was no Lucozade Sport after Blackrock Castle. I got a cup there, but no more. That's almost inexcusable bearing in mind what we pay for the event. Other than that, great day and very happy.

Anonymous said...

I ran the half and I would like to congratulate the organisers, volunteers, Gardai, medical personnel etc. It was a terrific event and the atmosphere was great. We can all feel really proud of how well the city looked. Lets emphasise the positives from the day e.g. changing facilities, transport, atmosphere, number of water stations, the excellent course, all the good looking women en route etc. There are lessons to be learned, particularly changes that will improve safety for runners and spectators. These have been well documented above and I'm sure the organisers will strongly consider the many excellent suggestions made when planning next years event. In the meantime lets give credit where its due and thank all those involved for what was a really great day. Go raibh mile maith agaibh !

Anonymous said...

Hi John
great blog,great to read all comments..Have to agreee wit ..CYCLING SOME GOOD THO so hope dont get them banned: as i cud not take part this year so cycled to marina locked up d bike and supported there .Then cycled to straight rd [avoiding MOST of marathon route] to help when they needed MOST:so DONT BAN BIKES all of route but most definately on all narrow roads ..Well Done to all and to you John on Pace making :}Monica Twohig Eagle AC

Anonymous said...

Ran the full marathon yesterday in ideal conditions such a difference to 2009!!
Well done to the organisers what a gr8day and fab atmosphere on all parts of the route.
On some of the issues mentioned earlier.... the water stations were more than plentiful I used 1 bottle and carried it throughout the marathon I had my own lucozade sport as well on a belt as the availability of lucozade sport was quite low by the latter stages.
The issues with the half marathon didnt intefere with me as i was finished by the time they came in...
The pacers for the marathon were gr8 (3.45) thanks guys I had a most enjoyable marathon as i paced myself sensibly finished in 3.46 (PB 4 me by 15 mins) but on the down side i cant walk v well today!!!

JohnD said...

just for anonymous who can't walk very well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-hCuYjvw2I

John Desmond said...

Regarding the time of the Half start...In it's current format, if the Half-Marathon had started earlier then almost certainly some of the runners (Half or Full) would have taken the wrong route at Blackrock Castle.

Anonymous said...

I did the half marathon & really enjoyed it. Would suggest that it should start at least a half an hour earlier & that cups shouldn't be used. Other than that, great organisation & a great day out!

Anonymous said...

I would also like to respond to Jane and “””anonymous””” above. How anyone thinks they have to right to shout anything especially a derogatory comment towards a fellow athlete, during a race of all places, should really be told where to go. I have also been involved in athletics for many years at local and international level and not once have I come across this sort of sickening behaviour. Maybe this is acceptable in other sports but it certainly is not acceptable here. This incident should be reported and whoever responsible should be disciplined accordingly. Athletes should be supporting and encouraging each other and nothing else.

Anonymous said...

hey john,
great work on the blog!
i ran the full in just over 4 hours and really really enjoyed it.
thought it was well organised in nearly every aspect. my cribs would be the lack of lucozade sport drinks cos water isn't enough - get tesco to get their glucose drink out next year cos its fine. the paper cups too are just rubbish it has to be small bottles imo. dunno about the cyclists i had no problems but don't believe they shoulld be on the course. i had no problems with any other runners but constantly being passed by relay runners for my four hours was bit annoying. the course was great some really lovely sections and a second half harder than the first...nice!!
just keep up the good work all...perfection will never be achieved but 99.9% of runners yesterday would be back i'm sure.
And my t-shirt is great ;)

Anonymous said...

Ran the half an really enjoyed my first at this distance. Organisation was good but more time clocks around the course would be a good idea.

Leber said...

Brilliant Day making me proud to be from Cork in so many ways.

was only my 2nd half marathon and the first time doing it along with a full marathon.

was really clipping it for last two miles at 6:35 pace going for sub 1:29 and didnt realise there would be so little space/many people by mardyke.

was committed to trying to break my time and always called out 'on your left/right' to people ahead of me before I went past but must have been really difficult for the full marathoners struggling at that stage.

I only realise that now but when you're in the zone, exhausted and fixated on a PB time you are not that mentally aware.

Spent a lot of energy dodging people at most stages of race and just wanted to get over line at the end.

No-one really to blame as it was a trial year for organisers but Im sure they will address this next year.

Outstanding blog that has contributed to a few PBs I'd say

Anonymous said...

Did the full with my mother and had such a great day! Thanks to all the stewards and public for all their encouragment! Really was a great day and we were delighted to have the half Marathoners merge in with us, would have been very lonely without them as at the half way mark in was quite spaced out! The cheers from other runners were great and the halfers were so encouraging and respectful! Just a great day and looking for to completing my second Marathon next year! Thank you!!!

Anonymous said...

Ran the full marathon yesterday and was delighted with the weather conditions after the extreme heat and rain of the last 2 years. It was great to see more supporters out there this year to encourage you on your way.

Had a few near encounters with cyclists. I did see one marshall stop one of them to tell her that she should not be on the course but spotted her again 5 minutes later weaving through runners on the narrow Mahon walk.

Had a major issue with the water cups. I had read the info on water stations in the marathon booklet in advance. I thought having to go from the station at mile 14 to 21 with no water bottles was too far. I learnt my lesson and made sure I had 2 bottles leaving any water station after that. Even if I had brought a water bottle to refill, I don't think I would have wanted to stop running to refill at the "cup-only" stations on the way.

Other than that, I enjoyed the day and got a new PB so I'm happy. Well done to organisers and voluteers for all the hard work.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the athlete that was jeered, of course it is not acceptable for this to have happened, but don't focus on it, we are runners, we don't let things get us down, if I'd a new pair of runners for everytime someone smiled, laughed or shouted from a car as I suffered through a 20 miler! what these people don't know is the runner always has the last laugh, as I'm sure you did no doubt as you crossed the line In patrick street, think of all the support you had to get there as opposed to this incident.

John G said...

Great job on this site John. Ran my first marathon in under 4 hours. The preview was invaluable, particularly the warning about the difficult stages mid-way through the second half.

I agree about the comments about the bikes. Give support but not on narrow sections!

The last section was around the Mardyke was too narrow and congested. I got stuck behind a few slower runners. The faster half marathon runners couldn't overtake. It would have been chaos if the half marathon was any quicker or the start time was brought forward. Its a beautiful section of the run but too narrrow especially coming towards the end when you are trying to burn up that last piece of energy.

A minor suggestion would be to copy what Limerick did and print christian names over the running number. I did the half there, people yelling your name really puts a spring in your step.

Overall a great event, the muic was fantastic as were the people along the route cheering you on especially the relay runners at the changeovers, hope to be back next year.

Anonymous said...

I did the half and was very happy, thought everthing was well organised, dont like the cups either. re cyclists,I recognised a lot of people out supporting here and there around the course, these people had gone to great trouble to get to these locations usually prearranged with their runner without cycling on the course. I think the point here with the cyclists is that they are actually on the course, they get in the way of other runners and I also think it is cheating to have someone supporting/pacing u along like that, giving you a totally unfair advantage. I think they should be banned from being on the course. The genuine supporters will find their way to prearranged meeting points next year same as they did this year and not interfere with the runners. Cyclists have no place on the run course. As for the booing, abusive heckling of that runner, I am really sorry to hear this, I've raced all over the world and never ever seen this happen before, if it is any consolation at all it does is show them up for what they are which is a bunch of cowards. Its always easy to be brave to be in a group. What utterly unsporting behaviour - sickening, makes one wonder what sport they participate in? Sounds like its worth avoiding!! But, I do hope you've had time to reflect on your own fantastic run and that this yob behaviour didnt ruin your day. Thank you Cork, hope to be back next year.

Anonymous said...

Ran the full and broke 3.45 thanks to John and Ray's excellent pacing. Thanks again. Agree with all the comments re the water cups. I think we deserve bottles for our entry fee and wasnt too impressed with the small quantity of energy drinks in the cups. Maybe it was me but i couldnt see the clock at the finish! I was glad to finish ahead of the half and wouldnt want them passing me out over the last few miles as i was struggling enough

Anonymous said...

I was wondering on Monday how Monica Twohig was supporting runners at 2 points of the route which were miles apart! (see Monica's comment 7/6/11, 9.03pm)Thanks for your support Monica, it meant alot to me (& no doubt other runners too) It was especially welcome on the straight road when I was nearly running on empty on mile 25. I've been at very few local races over the years that Monica wasn't either competing, supporting or organising. A mighty person.

Anonymous said...

My first marathon and I enjoyed every minute of it (maybe with the exception of miles 19 to 23 when I thought my legs were going to fall off). Well organised and a great day. Agree with the comments about the cup. I tried to get a bottle instead of a cup whenever I could. But overall a brilliant experience. Thanks to all who put in the effort to make it the great event it is.

Anonymous said...

Ran the relay and it was very enjoyable. The Tee-shirt given to relay runners is terrible quality and all large sizes given to us. For the money paid I think they should give better quality and at least give the right sizes....other than that a great day out.

Anonymous said...

Congratulations to every single person involved in organising and managing this years marathon even. This was my first full marathon after running as part of relay teams in the past few years. Managed just under 4hrs, was knackered and thought the whole event was fantastic.

I would agre that earphones and cyclists (mentors) should be banned from the course. It's not about them having any kind of advantage, it's just about safety.

Each year there are improvements made to this event and they are always for the best. A big thank you to all involved and I look forward to competing again next year!

Jaffa said...

Great event in Cork again this year, well done to all of the organisers & volunteers. Agree with the comments re lack of clocks on the course - my sat nav bombed out in the tunnel and last clock I recall seeing was at the halfway point. Otherwise, terrific event and will be back to run full course again next year !

Anonymous said...

John, re. your comment on taking the wrong route at the castle.

What about:

Start the half on the Blackrock road, run it into the village and out the marina as per normal. That way there cant be any confusion at the Blackrock castle. And the half marathon can start earlier?

Aine said...

Overall a great day and enjoyed it. Having taken part in the Great Limerick Run earlier this year, I think organisers of Cork marathon should look at this model i.e a full and half marathon and a 10K with staggered start times. The relay option is too messy, with bus issues, crowding around the changeover points and such variety in the pace of runners. Also why can't the race be held on Sunday and make it more of a festival atmosphere. By Monday evening Cork city was deserted as everybody had to get back to work on Tuesday. Anyway just a few comments but otherwise it was well organised and an enjoyable experience

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the opportunity to give feedback.

Cork was my first full marathon and what an amazing experience it was, I thought the whole event was exceptionally well organised and a great success. I'm so grateful to all involved especially the volunteers manning the course and water stations etc. Loved the lady with the vaseline:) Congratulations to all. Below are some thoughts, not complaints.

It was a little disheartening to be constantly passed by the half marathoners from mile 21. I take the points below about wanting to start the half earlier but if this was the case I'd prefer to start the full marathon an hour earlier also to ensure all the passing out wouldn't start even earlier than mile 21 and go on for longer.

The bicycles on the route didn't bother me but didn't realise they were carrying food for people,don't think that's fair.

Loved the t-shirt, nice to have female specific ones, the medal is great also. Really enjoyed the course, no bad hills & I actually liked the really long road (don't know name but it was around mile 23) as you could see the mile markers from a distance & once I could see them I considered they were 'near'!

I thought there were more than enough water stations but it would have been great to have an energy drink station before 11.5mile mark, perhaps around the 8mile stage.

The website on the run up to the race was poor. For those of us unfamilir with the city a decent map showing the exact streets would have been useful, it was difficult to try to meet supporters to get food etc when the website and booklet maps had so little detail on them. The map that was on the wall in city hall during registration was great, if that was available on the website it would have been helpful.

A fantastic event overall though,if my body ever gets back to normal,I'll be back:)

Lyall said...

Really great race. The "good" weather finally showed its face this year. :-) I've taken part each year since 2007, two relays and three marathons. Was at the front end of the marathon field this year and enjoyed it from start to finish.

No complaints here. :-) I understand those complaining about a reduction in bottled water / energy drinks compared to previous years. But in fairness, in previous years you ended up with loads of 500ml Gatorade bottles discarded with 400ml of fluid left in them. :/ Personally I thought the mix of bottles and cups was fine. And a great tip from Derek about about drinking from the paper cups - normally I just slow down for a few seconds to get it down the throat but will attempt his "double-crumple" method in future!

Loved the handful of trad bands on the route as well, but would like to see a return of the drummers that were at the exit of the Jack Lynch tunnel in previous years!!

jim said...

great day out yet again...however,could runners refrain from throwing the used bottles/cups/gel packets into unretrieveable spots like the river/ditches...bins a little up the road would help but consideration for those who have to clean up after us is def needed by the greater numbers

Anonymous said...

Hi John
With regards to Monica's comment in regards to banning bikes , i hope to that they are not banned once the people that are cycling take due care in what is around them. i was one of the people that got much needed support from her in both location more so on in the last few miles.have to agree with the other post in regards to monica one mighty person that enjoys her sport and gives alot of encouragment to other athletes.Monica Towigh LEGEND


In regards to the athlete that made the humiliated another athlete with jeering comments NAME & SHAME please thats not on in this sport and not wanted.

Trevor St Finbarrs Ac

John Desmond said...

Just a few points....

1) On the 'Jeering' issue......Whatever happened or was said is between the individuals concerned and it's up to them to resolve it so we will leave it at that.

2) Water in cups.......I know that if the weather had been hot like 2009 then cups would have been impractical. You just can't take on enough water. It just so happens that this year was cool and the dehydration levels were lower.

3) Half-Start......I had a quick look at what would happen if you moved the start to the Blackrock road........the start line is then near the SMA centre (African Missions) for those that know it. Sounds fine but then you are into more road closures, getting people to the start line, narrow road, etc. I know in the Dublin Marathon this year, they are supposed to be starting in a series of 3 waves.....10 mins apart. Maybe something like that would help? Whatever the solution, it will be the one race where the numbers will grow.

rom said...

Regarding the person who had the issue and reported the cyclist. I witness that. She said "You are getting in the way and keep weaving across the road etc" or something like that. The woman's husband that was running said "She has a right to be here". When the lady asked the steward to do something he told her to ask a steward later on. No radio's ? Good for you for reporting them but its the Irish way to do nothing.

As for banning bikes. I am not for it but I think it must be a prerequisite that you have run a marathon or run a club to ride a bike on marathon day. I don't think anyone would have a problem with that. You prove it. You get a bib. No bib then you are removed from the course.

Non runner ridding bikes. nearly got knocked over by someone that cut across me on Mardyke also. I was going to kick them off it if they came close though.

Anonymous said...

Hi all, a simple message to all who played a part in a great event on Monday - well done!!
Let's always remember that the comments on the blog are our opportunity to point out an idea for improvement or a niggle of complaint - but underlying all is a gratitude and respect to the organisers and volunteers who gave so much on Monday and for weeks before.
John, as ever well done on the blog - the information point and discussion hub of running in Cork
Eamonn Carroll

Anonymous said...

I did the Half Marathon. Enjoyed it and it was well organised. However the waiting around in Mahon was a bit long. Maybe should have started an hour earlier. Got caught in conjestion at last relay changeover point.

Anonymous said...

In relation to the comments about the litter from the bottles, etc. I ran the Kilkenny half marathon last year and they put "Eco Zones" on their course which were clearly marked out on the road using signs at the start and drawing a simple white line on the road with the words Eco Zone at either end. The principle was that you were free to throw away your bottles, etc anywhere within these zones which were a distance out from each of the water stations. At the end of each eco zone were big blue barrels either side of the road into which you could ditch your water bottles, gels, whatever you wished to off load. The only thing I would say is that you would need to allow sufficient distance for the zones to work for faster runners (they manage to get further with the bottles!). To be fair, while not everyone stuck to the zones, I would say the organisers managed to target more than 70% of the litter. It definitely makes a significant difference to the environment (much of that race takes part in the countryside) and it makes clean up a lot easier to control.

Anonymous said...

From reading the comments above, its a shame about the lack of course information available on the marathon website - perhaps the organisers should think about putting a link to your blog John? As always it had plenty of detailed analysis (mile by mile) and lots of useful information - I didn't need to rely on the marathon official website as I knew you would have all the most important info! Thanks for all your help on this and all the other races, its much appreciated. Great blog and I'm always quoting it to my running friends!

Niamh said...

As a first-time marathoner, it was a fantastic experience. Although no longer living in Cork, I am delighted that I chose my native city for my first marathon. The support was fantastic. Thanks to all. I had the best day! And the city centre looked fab. My supporter used his bike to get around the course and meet me at various points; it's a great way to go and quite fun to have him pop up unexpectedly at various junctions. We were surprised at how much access he was allowed to the course, though and commented on the danger of it. I hope, for the short few times he stayed with me on open roads, he didn't upset anyone. A few words with someone is good, if you're struggling, but mostly I want to be in my own space. I need to go inside to draw on my own reserves. Anyway, I want to thank the fellow runner who, actually paused and turned around just as we crossed the Mardyke bridge, to offer me the right few words. I can't remember what he said, but the gist of it (said kindly) was suck it up and finish strong! Thanks - I did! It was a great day.

Anonymous said...

Did the half - really enjoyed it and serious respect for all those that did double my run!
My hubby was on his bike but he cycled to points along the route and waited there to cheer me on rather than cycling alongside me - which would have probably driven me mad anyway. It would be a shame to ban bikes altogether - he really enjoyed being able to soak up the atmosphere and as he is a runner himself he knew to stay out of the way of runners.
The drummers en route were fab - they provided a real lift along the way.
A big thanks is also due to all the stewards and people who stood for ages handing out drinks, offering encouragement and directing runners and then as we all basked in the afterglow they got stuck into the marathon task of cleaning up after us. The straight road and Inchigaggon were perfect on Tuesday - not a bottle of gel wrapper to be seen. Take a bow all involved!

Anonymous said...

In relation to the comments about the litter from the bottles, etc. I ran the Kilkenny half marathon last year and they put "Eco Zones" on their course which were clearly marked out on the road using signs at the start and drawing a simple white line on the road with the words Eco Zone at either end. The principle was that you were free to throw away your bottles, etc anywhere within these zones which were a distance out from each of the water stations. At the end of each eco zone were big blue barrels either side of the road into which you could ditch your water bottles, gels, whatever you wished to off load. The only thing I would say is that you would need to allow sufficient distance for the zones to work for faster runners (they manage to get further with the bottles!). To be fair, while not everyone stuck to the zones, I would say the organisers managed to target more than 70% of the litter. It definitely makes a significant difference to the environment (much of that race takes part in the countryside) and it makes clean up a lot easier to control.

Anonymous said...

Dont think you can ban cyclists in the city but you certainly can ban cyclists from being on the course. Is up to the organisers of the event.

JohnD said...

great pictures now up on the sportcam website

Anonymous said...

John

Did cork for the first time this year. Wont be coming back I think?? In comparison to dublin felt it lacked in atmosphere where the course was not in the city. Also one thing that really annoyed me was all my buddies who ran the relays got txts after to confirm their times - I got no confirmation txt of my time and I did the full? Felt it was more about the relays then it was about the full runners.

Anonymous said...

Fantastic Day - My first full marathon. Brilliantely organised, plenty of water, lucozade sport, music, support, marshalling and atmospher. Please don't discourage headphones - I only run with one earpiece in but couldn't run without some beats to keep my legs moving. A huge thanks to all involved who gave up their time and for all the support along the road, especially that given by fellow runners. Already looking forward to next year.

Anonymous said...

this the second time i ran cork marathon, 2009 and 2011. in 2009 i was unfit(injured) so i ran poorly in just under 5 hrs and afterwards i said never again would i run cork because all the relay runners passing out the slow marathon runners was very disheartening.
this year i ran and did a pb of 3.30 and it was easier to run ,very few relay runners and no half marathon runners, but i think the timing of the start of the races suited anybody under 3.45 , and it was mayhem for people slower than that . it is hard to please people of every standard , but the marathon runner should be given priority.
so start the marathon and the relay marathon at the same time 9.00am and start the half marathon at 10.00 and have the half marathoners on the course and gone . also have 2 different clocks for the half and the full when they finish.
the clock for monday was very hard to see , it should be above the line.
the new course was better with the half the straight road gone. For 2012 ,please organise the same weather for the race , it was perfect.

Anonymous said...

Support from people of Cork along the route was fantastic, not always acknowledged because I was too wrecked. Did the half and loved it and would hope a full versus half divide doesn't develop. In relation to bikes there is no place for them .. the numbers of runners for the half was limited so exclude the bikes and let more runners in. Having assistance from someone else on a bike is cheating in my book.

Anonymous said...

i done the full john and was wondering ..do you quote the clock time or chip time ..it the difference of a few seconds i know but the chip time is in the previous minute ....do people quote chip time or clock times ...thanks ..this website done a great job on the build up to the marathon ...just 2 things i would change ..more physio's and a better website ...thanks john

John Desmond said...

Chip Vs Clock time...now that's a good question! ;o)

I would think the majority of people will go with chip time. Otherwise, everyone will want to be at the front for the start and that is your time for running 26.2 miles...the same distance done by the winners.

Personally...I'd prefer to break a specific target using clock times. They didn't have chip timing years ago when other people ran those same times. Speaking for myself, there is an element of 'Yes but' when you are using a piece of technology on your shoe to get a faster time.

But it's really up to each individual to decide for themelves.

Anonymous said...

chip or clock ..for example if you wanted to break 3.30 and your chip time was 3.29.54 and your clock time was 3.30.10 ...your chip time should be the official one... .. as this will lead to everyone trying to be on the start line (mayhem) ......